Dec 5, 2012 6:00am EST
talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what you would expect to see in this negotiation, very public negotiation, which is not the best way to do it. i think at some point, the preside
Dec 3, 2012 9:00am EST
for years. >> even though democrats won the presidential election? doesn't that change the calculus? >> he would say these people are all safe seats if they don't get against the pledge. norquist has the division so to speak. he could destroy any republican who says the word tax increase. has he said -- he said if they're seduced by democrats in pure thoughts this is the so-called i can smell pornography when i see it. this is pornography for grover norquist. he can smell it when he sees it. he will target. he will destroy republicans who go against the pledge. he's much more powerful than any individual republican. and individual ceo. let's just face it. i've always felt he was the most powerful person in the class of '76 at harvard. enjoyed his success because he was a fellow member of the harvard crimson. i just disagree with him. terrific guy. >> with friends like that -- >> with all due respect to my ex-partner larry kudlow with all due respect. >> the treasury secretary talks about how he does not think that in the end the gop is going to prevent tax rates on the wealthiest from risi
Dec 4, 2012 6:00am EST
. they can't govern either. >> i was so hopeful, i wasn't obviously thrilled with the election results, but i actually thought that result might be the result we needed to get thefshs done. >> in a way you you have the situation where -- >> you extend 98 but not the 2? believing that story is so -- >> either raise them on everyone or raise them on -- either it will hurt the economy if you raise taxes or it's not. on 98 it won't hurt, on 2 it will -- >> we'll have more on this argument. in the meantime, let's talk about some of the other headlines. financial firms are gathering for the goldman sachs financial services contractors. a key presenter is brian money tha moynihan. we talked about his reports of planned fee increases. plus there was the issue of president obama's likely pick to follow tim geithner at treasury. we talked about how buffett threw out jamie dimon's name. here is what moynihan thinks about that idea. >> i won't give individual names, but i think what warren is expressing a view which i agree with is that we need to have very bright, very talented and very broad experience
Dec 5, 2012 9:00am EST
to the sixth which happens to be the election on tens, you will notice -- this is weird. this is a 21st session that we're going to be looking to close in a range between 158 and is 169. we were at the 175 mark. that was really a changing moment for treasuries. if you open the chart up to a 20-year chart, maybe sometimes some out there forget exactly how low these yields are. look at that 20-year chart. contrast it with s&p 500 chart. what a difference. obviously the feds program to push people to risk in some ways is working but in ways it's not working. look at flows. it's in treasuries. not in the equities. now if we look at the euro, let's look at euro from year-to-date. doesn't look bad. about month and a half high. let's go back to 2000. doesn't look nearly as good. the winning chart on perspective perspective is dollar/yen. look at that year-to-date. it looks like it's really going to explode. if you look at a 20-year chart, we're just dancing around the bottom. jim cramer, back to you. >> drives me crazy that i can't figure that out. let's check out the latest news in energy and metals.